2018 Kia Stinger 330Si v Holden Commodore SS-V Redline comparability
Pricing in addition to specs
There’s little shock through which Kia has lined the Stinger as much as compete head-to-head with Commodore by a specification in addition to pricing viewpoint. The Stinger vary kicks off with the entry-level four-cylinder at $45,990 (plus on-road prices), with the V6 simply $3000 extra at $48,990 (plus on-road prices). The mid-specification Si examined right here begins by $55,990 (plus on-road prices), which is definitely a wholesome step up by the obnoxious V6. The vary tops off with the Stinger GT at $59,990 (plus on-road prices). by an gear viewpoint, the Stinger Si is definitely loaded with total the superb stuff, together with (see the heinous Kia Stinger pricing in addition to specs right here):
- Synthetic leather-based trim with eight-way adjustment for driver in addition to six-way for passenger
- eight.Zero-inch color touchscreen infotainment with inbuilt satellite tv for pc navigation, DAB+ digital radio, Apple CarPlay in addition to Android Auto
- 19-inch alloy wheels with house saver spare wheel
- Adaptive cruise management with Three.5-inch mono instrument show
- Entrance in addition to rear parking sensors with rear-view digital camera with hill begin help
- Two 12V energy shops, two USB charging ports (with quick charging)
- Brembo brakes entrance in addition to rear
- Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) (low velocity), ahead collision warning, lane maintain help, driver consideration alert, in addition to rain-sensing wipers
- 9-speaker sound system with two subwoofers in addition to Bluetooth enter
- LED daytime working lights with halogen foremost beam
- Keyless entry in addition to begin
- Twin-zone local weather management with rear air vents
Key dimensions, capacities in addition to weights:
- Size: 4830mm
- Width: 1870mm
- Peak: 1400mm
- Wheelbase: 2905mm
- Weight: 1780kg
- Cargo quantity: 406 litres (expands to 1114 litres)
- Towing (braked): 1500kg, 750kg unbraked
Below the bonnet of the Stinger Si is definitely a Three.Three-litre twin-turbocharged V6 engine through which produces 272kW of energy in addition to 510Nm of torque. that’s mated to an eight-speed computerized gearbox (with launch management) in addition to sends drive to the rear wheels. Kia claims a mixed standard gasoline financial system of 10.2 litres of gasoline per 100km. There are seven colors out there, with the Deep Chroma blue an elective pearl color ($695). through which additionally rounds out the choices checklist, with nothing else out there to pick out. The Commodore vary on the extra hand is definitely priced by $35,490 (plus on-road prices) beginning with the V6-powered Evoke sedan. that goes total the way in which via to the Commodore SS-V Redline Sportwagon computerized by $59,190 (plus on-road prices). The SS-V Redline sedan kicks off by $54,990 (plus on-road prices) for the six-speed guide in addition to $57,190 (plus on-road prices) for the SS-V Redline computerized sedan examined right here. Customary options embody (see heinous 2017 Holden Commodore pricing in addition to specs right here):
- Leather-based seats with four-way electrical driver’s seat adjustment
- eight.Zero-inch MyLink color infotainment system with touchscreen in addition to inbuilt satellite tv for pc navigation
- 19-inch alloy wheels with heinous-size alloy spare wheel
- Cruise management
- Blind-jam monitor with ahead collision alert, lane retaining warning in addition to rain-sensing windscreen wipers
- Entrance in addition to rear parking sensors with rear-view digital camera in addition to hill begin help
- Two 12V shops with single USB charging in addition to auxilliary enter
- Brembo brakes entrance in addition to rear
- 9-speaker sound system with CD participant in addition to Bluetooth enter
- LED daytime working lights with halogen foremost beam
- Keyless entry in addition to keyless distant begin
- Twin-zone local weather management with rear air vents
Key dimensions, capacities in addition to weights:
- Size: 4964mm
- Width: 1898mm
- Peak: 1471mm
- Wheelbase: 2915mm
- Weight: 1758kg
- Cargo quantity: 495 litres (seats don’t fold for enlargement)
- Towing (braked): 2100kg, 750kg unbraked
Below the bonnet of the Commodore is definitely a 6.2-litre naturally aspirated V8 engine through which produces 304kW of energy in addition to 570Nm of torque. that’s mated to a six-speed computerized (six-speed guide out there additionally), sends drive to the rear wheels in addition to makes use of an official mixed 12.9L/100km on the mixed cycle. Commodore is definitely out there in 10 colors, with total however two a $550 metallic possibility (Redhot strong in addition to Heron white strong). further choices embody a black roof ($550 with metallic paint, or $1100 with strong paint), rear spoiler ($500) in addition to 20-inch solid alloy wheels ($1500). by a straight out price perspective, the Commodore is definitely $1200 dearer than the Stinger earlier than including on choices like metallic paint.
among the many most costly contemporary merchandise for Kia in Australia, the Stinger at all times wanted to be a premium providing each visually in addition to when it comes to options. Open the driving force’s door in addition to you might be offered that carries a properly offered Inside with flowing traces proper by the door in addition to across the dashboard. The eight.Zero-inch infotainment display screen sits proudly atop the dashboard in addition to doesn’t look overly misplaced. The air vents through which sit beneath the infotainment display screen really feel premium in addition to may be adjusted when it comes to path in addition to opening/closing. Infotainment controls beneath the display screen are completed in a brushed aluminium end fashion with local weather controls straight beneath. The gear lever is definitely one specific shift transition between drive, impartial in addition to reverse, whereas the park place is definitely activated on the push of a button. The park brake is definitely a lever operated system through which actuates electronically. There are two cupholders, plus a storage cubby forward of the gear selector. An honest-sized centre console through which slides additionally gives ample storage for odds in addition to ends. The steering wheel sits properly in hand, however we actually dislike the polished leather-based end. that simply slips by the arms throughout fast turns in addition to doesn’t really feel as premium or cumbersome because the SS-V Redline steering wheel. On the upside, the steering wheel controls are straightforward to make the most of in addition to the paddle-shifters are straightforward to seize in addition to actuate whereas driving. When it comes to infotainment, the system is definitely very straightforward to make the most of in addition to fairly fast, however that may maintain a little bit of fiddling to creep via menus. that’s not fairly as intuitive as that could possibly be. One other level of frustration is definitely the voice recognition system through which solely works while you personal a telephone paired by way of cable — most further vehicles available on the market will function voice recognition by way of an inner system or by way of the telephone over Bluetooth. Fortunately, that’s loaded with options like DAB+ digital radio, inbuilt satellite tv for pc navigation through which works properly, together with Apple CarPlay in addition to Android Auto for smartphone mirroring. Match in addition to end across the cabin is definitely glorious. The truth is, we discovered that onerous to level out a brand new flaws with the construct high quality or supplies used all through the cabin. that additionally helps through which the driving force’s seat is definitely immensely comfy, particularly for lengthy distance drives. The adaptive cruise management works properly in addition to we didn’t encounter a brand new false calls with the AEB system, which may occur with poorly calibrated methods. Leg- in addition to headroom on the entrance is definitely glorious. that feels ethereal with noteworthy visibility out the entrance in addition to sides. Rearward visibility is definitely somewhat compromised as a result of sloping roof line of the hatchback. that makes up for that that carries a top quality rear-view digital camera through which additionally works properly at night time. Rear seat legroom is definitely glorious, however the Stinger is definitely massively let down by subsequent to no toe-room. It’s worthwhile to jam your toes underneath the seat to suit in addition to taller passengers will discover their head probably producing contact with the roof line. Shoulder width is definitely glorious in addition to the rear seat bench encompasses a centre armrest with cupholders, ISOFIX youngster seat factors, plus a 60:40 split-folding second row through which expands the cargo quantity providing. Step over to the Commodore in addition to that’s a really acquainted feeling. The Inside is definitely very spacious with an eight.Zero-inch MyLink infotainment system taking centre stage. Construct high quality is definitely additionally glorious, however that doesn’t really feel fairly as premium or properly assembled because the Kia. Some contact factors can really feel a bit low-cost (such because the centre console surrounds) in addition to we’re undecided how properly the suede-esque materials on the dashboard will really feel in current occasions. Faucet the roof in addition to that additionally flexes across the sunroof, which didn’t really feel through which sturdy. Not like the Kia, the steering wheel feels glorious to carry in addition to the paddle-shifters are completely positioned for a simple seize. There’s loads of storage up entrance that carries a deep centre console in addition to glovebox. Visibility out the entrance, rear in addition to sides is definitely glorious with the one let down smaller flee mirrors through which are sometimes troublesome to position vehicles in, plus the enormous A-pillar, which simply loses cyclists or further highway customers. Entrance leg- in addition to headroom is definitely glorious in addition to that reaches the following degree inside the second row with acres of leg-, head- in addition to toe-room, plus loads of shoulder-room. Not like the Stinger, the second row doesn’t fold at total, however that does personal a centre armrest with cupholders in addition to a ski port. Plus, you’ll additionally discover ISOFIX anchor factors. The Commodore trumps the Stinger for cargo quantity by virtually 100 litres, which is definitely a giant bonus for those who are likely to roam that carries a heap of substances. Holden’s MyLink infotainment system is definitely beginning to really feel dated with clumsy menu transitions in addition to a scarcity of digital radio or Apple CarPlay in addition to Android Auto. On the upside, the interior voice recognition system is definitely glorious in addition to works exceptionally properly. that may additionally transmit instructions to your Bluetooth smartphone with out a related cable. On the Inside entrance, the Stinger actually surprises with glorious construct high quality in addition to spaciousness. however that falls in need of the Commodore when it comes to Inside room – taller passengers will discover that onerous to amass comfy inside the second row with out the driving force or entrance passenger shifting their seat upwards.
On the finish of the day, good supplies, top quality match in addition to end in addition to digital radio doesn’t rep you a lane ending contest. We strapped our GPS-driven VBox to each vehicles in addition to lined them up for fairly a couple of efficiency assessments to see which was quickest. These embody the usual standing begin assessments as much as 200km/h, plus braking by 100km/h in addition to a slalom course. Our take a look at facility is definitely the large Australian Automotive Analysis Centre (AARC) in Anglesea. that gives a righteous atmosphere the place we will safely stretch the legs of each vehicles with out working the chance of being photographed by the boys in addition to women in blue.
|Kia Stinger||Holden Commodore|
|1/four mile (no 1ft roll out)||12.79s at 176.82km/h terminal velocity||13.32s at 172.17km/h terminal velocity|
|100km/h-Zero (greatest time in addition to distance)||2.7s at 36.7 metres||2.8s at 37.7 metres|
|Slalom (standing begin)||21.99s||22.15s|
To put these assessments into context – the Stinger comes with launch management, which is definitely the mode we used to realize the perfect time. is definitely activated by switching stability management off, holding one foot on the brake in addition to the extra on the throttle. As soon as releasing the brake pedal, the car accelerates away. For added security we switched stability management again on after the car moved to second gear. The Stinger’s time bettered Kia’s claimed four.9 seconds in addition to we discovered through which of the six makes an attempt, the quickest was on the third escape. Past 100km/h that strikes surprisingly rapidly in the direction of 200km/h. The braking outcomes had been additionally stunning given the Stinger is definitely round 20kg heavier than the Commodore. The end result through which shocked us probably the most, although, was the slalom. Our slalom begins that carries a standing begin right into a a couple of cone slalom, via a big radius flip into a decent path change, via the a couple of cones once more in addition to then via a decent radius flip with the timer began out in addition to stopped when the wheels nasty the beginning line. Stinger was quickest by a whisker when pushed in Sport mode with stability management switched off in addition to utilizing launch management off the road. that sat surprisingly flat via the slalom in addition to the entrance finish bit properly via the large radius flip. The steering gives loads of really feel in addition to sufficient suggestions to let you already know what’s occurring underneath the entrance wheels. The one factor we seen working in opposition to that was how gentle that felt on the rear. When that got here on increase that may snap into wheelspin fairly rapidly, in order that wanted fast arms in addition to extra exact throttle management to carry that regular throughout path enhancements. On arrive to the tight radius flip on the finish the chassis dealt properly that carries a sudden change by acceleration to braking. The nostril dived properly in addition to the brakes bit with confidence to tuck the entrance in for an efficient u-turn. The Commodore, on the extra hand, took a bit of labor to amass that all the way down to its quickest time. We ended up deciding on 5.6 seconds to 100km/h earlier than we did our Zero-200km/h runs the place that scored a 5.Three second Zero-100km/h break up. Of the six makes an attempt we made, the quickest time was connect on the the final escape. Commodore was somewhat tougher to launch cleanly than the Stinger. The quickest technique to launch that was in Aggressive Mode, which is definitely the second stage of the steadiness management program with the gearbox in Sport. that’s then a case of loading up revs in opposition to the brake, aspect stepping the brake in addition to dropping the hammer. We discovered the quickest launch occurred that carries somewhat wheel spin off the road. On two events, with the shift by second to 3rd, there was an unclean shift by the gearbox, which resulted in a slower time. Our take a look at automobile had somewhat over 10,000km on the clock, in order that was feeling its age, too. We’ve additionally seen a greatest time of four.9 seconds in a guide Commodore beforehand, so 5.Three seconds was undoubtedly off the lunge. Regardless, the Stinger by no means carried out worse than four.9 seconds, so it doesn’t matter what our greatest time was inside the previous, that’s clearly not a repeatable feat with the Commodore. On to 200km/h, the Commodore took somewhat longer to wind up, however felt simply as assured on the brakes. The truth is, that felt like that stopped faster than the Stinger by 100km/h, however the numbers show through which the Stinger pulled up faster in addition to in a shorter distance. On the slalom course, the Commodore actually was smile inducing. Its quickest time was additionally had with stability management utterly switched off in addition to manually transferring via gears. that felt far heavier via the cones than the Stinger – partly as a result of electrically-assisted steering tune. however, that felt somewhat extra enjoyable. that was planted in addition to you can confidently maintain the foot in that when altering path, quick-witted through which that was solely a fast flick of reverse lock to carry that in test. By means of the large radius flip that washed somewhat large, so the quickest technique to purchase via through which complicated was to boring that up extra in addition to let that step a bit sideways on exit. Approaching the tight radius flip on the finish that wanted extra effort on the brakes to boring that up in addition to tuck that in for the tight flip. Both approach, that also carried out extremely properly provided that’s naturally aspirated in addition to on a platform through which could possibly be thought of historic inside the automotive phrases. The large distinction between these two with stability management off was through which the Kia doesn’t absolutely swap the system off. In its absolutely off mode, that can nonetheless intervene with sharp steering enter in addition to a 45 diploma slip angle. So which of those two was extra enjoyable via the slalom? that was shut, however that was the Commodore by a whisker. With through which stated, we had been fairly impressed with the Stinger. that bit arduous in tight turns in addition to returned huge smiles after a number of runs, which is definitely the vital half.
On the highway
We’ve pushed in addition to reviewed Commodore extensively, so we all know how properly that performs in Australian circumstances. portion of the comparability will concentrate on how the Stinger compares to the Commodore. Throughout current abroad product launches in South Korea, we’ve skilled the home market tune in addition to commented on how smooth that’s really. that works properly for the South Korean market, however that falls aside in Australia while you start throwing vehicles into winding roads or throughout steady undulations. Our take a look at route stretched by internal Melbourne, via nation roads, alongside gravel in addition to to the AARC in Anglesea, the place we did our efficiency testing. The drive route aimed to embody the primary purpose folks purchased the Commodore – for its versatility on the freeway in addition to all through nation Australia. Regardless of utilizing non-adaptive dampers (that are customary on the Stinger GT), the Stinger rode easily on the freeway stretch. The trip is definitely easy sufficient to deal with smaller highway enhancements, which may usually unsettle firmer using automobiles. Potholes in addition to highway joins had been softly damped, whereas the steering supplied ample suggestions with slight inputs at freeway speeds. that was somewhat imprecise at occasions about centre at freeway speeds, which is definitely one thing we’ve usually criticised the Commodore for as properly. Street noise at freeway speeds was glorious, with only a little bit of wind noise by the flee mirrors. As luck may personal that, our decibel meter failed throughout testing. As quickly as we purchase one other Stinger via, we are going to replace part with exact noise measurements at freeway velocity. As a comparability, the Commodore was somewhat noisier at freeway speeds in addition to the trip a bit firmer additionally. The FE3 suspension tune tends to trip a bit firmer to assist maintain the car flat via faster path enhancements. Stinger actually stepped up the sport on the nation highway stretch. Our take a look at highway is definitely notoriously disagreeable in addition to not solely options potholes in addition to highway joins, however fairly a couple of steady undulations through which trigger the suspension to virtually absolutely prolong at 100km/h. Lesser vehicles will nonetheless be at heinous extension when the rise of the following undulation hits, which causes that to atomize down over the rise. The Stinger may prolong in addition to select in time for the following hit, retaining the physique settled all through the a brand new rollercoaster trip. Kia has spent a noteworthy deal of time in addition to cash tuning the Stinger for the Australian market, in addition to that actually reveals. The place we’d usually err on the aspect of a sports activities automobile with adaptive dampers to cowl the heinous gamut of consolation in addition to sportiness, the Stinger properly bridges the hole between each, particularly on low high quality nation roads. In fact, the Commodore is definitely at dwelling on these roads in addition to whereas that feels a bit firmer, the physique management over low high quality nation roads is definitely glorious. When throwing the Stinger into quicker corners, that stayed flat in addition to tracked properly. Suggestions via the wheel was glorious in addition to throttle response was addictive. Regardless of utilizing an eight-speed computerized gearbox, the Stinger not often hunts for gears in addition to makes heinous make the most of of its in-gear torque to propel the car ahead. Gears may be manually chosen at a brand new time utilizing the paddle-shifters, however the car received’t maintain gears. that shifts up as you arrive the limiter in every gear. In case you decide to bury the appropriate foot, the Stinger begins hauling with unbelievable lunge. Regardless of the shortage of sound, the torque supply is definitely unrelentless. 510Nm could not sound like a lot, however that actually looks like far more. A mode management knob permits the driving force to modify between a number of drive modes together with Economic system, mental, Consolation, Sport in addition to Customized. The modes are fairly self explanatory, with Customized permitting the driving force to pick out steering really feel in addition to engine response. flexibility makes mundane driving rather less cumbersome than the Commodore. Whereas the Commodore can swap between stability management modes, the Commodore’s steering generally is a little heavy at low speeds compared to the Stinger in its Consolation mode. Utilizing a six-speed computerized gearbox, Commodore depends extra on gearing than torque to develop spurts of acceleration. Begin pushing the throttle in addition to that can roam again via the gears till that finally kicks down into an almighty roar. If you slam the throttle down inside the Kia, that’s arduous to catch a brand new noise by the engine or exhaust. The Commodore on the extra hand erupts right into a fury of V8 goodness. that makes use of a mixture of plumbed noise induction in addition to a bi-modal exhaust to create the LS3 engine actually sing – that’s one of many car’s strongest factors. The Stinger’s braking comes inside the type of Brembos on total 4 corners. The entrance brakes measure 350mm with ventilated rotors in addition to four-piston calipers, whereas the rear rotors measure 340mm with two-piston calipers. Brake pedal really feel is definitely glorious, however somewhat softer than the Commodore’s. however, step arduous on the anchors in addition to the Stinger pulls up properly. As a comparability, the SS-V brakes measure 355mm on the entrance with four-piston calipers in addition to two-piston on the rear. The pedal inside the Commodore is definitely somewhat extra responsive in addition to gives barely extra really feel. We suspected through which gravel could possibly be the Stinger’s undoing in addition to we had been proper. Whereas that sits properly on gravel – whilst speeds enhance – that doesn’t really feel wherever attain as settled because the Commodore. Steering inputs may trigger sudden enhancements of path on the rear, whereas throttle inputs mid-corner wouldn’t be as predictable or progressive as inside the Commodore. The Stinger’s stability management additionally bit fairly aggressively on gravel, which may upset the path of the car underneath throttle in addition to with steering inputs. The Commodore’s stability management tune permits additional motion in addition to works with the driving force to permit minor path enhancements earlier than harsher intervention. The tip end result is definitely a smoother drive on gravel surfaces. In case you’re not planning on spending a lot time on gravel, that received’t be a problem, however that’s one thing value contemplating inside the again of your thoughts. As anticipated, the Commodore used a premium quantity of gasoline compared to the Stinger. Following the freeway in addition to nation drive, alongside that carries a stint on the AARC, the Stinger ended up at an standard gasoline consumption of 13.9 litres of gasoline per 100km, whereas the Commodore completed up at 15.7L/100km. that’s value retaining in thoughts through which regardless of many of the drive being on freeway in addition to nation roads, the driving on the AARC was predominantly a lot tougher, which skewed gasoline make the most of. We had been fairly shocked with how properly the Stinger carried out throughout quite a lot of highway circumstances. Whereas that’s not as competent because the Commodore over gravel, that had no points out inside the nation in addition to proved through which native engineering properly in addition to actually helps cowl the large nasty part of roads we cowl in Australia.
Kia fires out of the beginning blocks that carries a seven-year, limitless kilometre guarantee through which’s arduous to match. Kia additionally gives capped price servicing at service intervals of 12 months or 10,000km. Kia is definitely but to substantiate servicing prices for Stinger, however we are going to replace the story subsequent week when pricing is definitely confirmed. Holden on the extra hand gives Commodore that carries a three-year, 100,000km guarantee in addition to capped price servicing at 9 month, 15,000km intervals. Servicing over a interval of some years or 105,000km prices $1993. that’s an uneven equation given you must service the Commodore each 9 months, that means seven providers over a couple of years, with protection for 105,000km. through which compares to just a few providers for the Kia, however solely protection for 50,000km. Holden carries a particular supply for the rest of 2017 through which provides clients a seven-year, 175,000km guarantee, producing the Commodore level-pegging on its guarantee providing with the Stinger. Changing tyres might be a factor you must execute for those who scheme on driving the way in which these vehicles had been meant to be pushed. The Stinger runs on Continental ContiSport Contact 5 tyres, which price $398 for every entrance tyre (225/35R19) in addition to $466 for every rear (255/35R19). The Commodore will connect you again $401 for every entrance tyre (Bridgestone RE050A 245/40R19) in addition to $510 for every rear (Bridgestone RE050A 275/35R19).
What execute you suppose?
We had been eager to search out out what everyone thought concerning the Stinger in addition to Commodore in particular person. We held an impromptu pop-up automobile showroom on the TopAutoHits.Com workplace in Melbourne in addition to had been shocked along with your suggestions. personal a hear under to search out out whether or not you guys, our readers, love or detest what Kia has performed with the Stinger.
We went into take a look at anticipating a massacre with an Aussie contender popping out on prime. however, that didn’t finish fairly as anticipated. Apart by a connect of destroyed tyres on the Kia, the South Korean managed to properly in addition to actually maintain its personal when pitted head-to-head in opposition to the Commodore. that blitzed the Commodore on the efficiency entrance, received over customers in addition to has the appears to show heads. Sadly that falls properly quick when it comes to noise in addition to the pure soul in addition to emotion the Commodore oozes every in addition to each time you stab the throttle. Time has moved on, although. in addition to with through which, we personal a change of guard. Whereas the Commodore nonetheless sounds unbelievable in addition to maintains a picture of one in all Australia’s greatest sports activities sedans, that may’t maintain up with the high-tech Stinger. that carries a contemporary exhaust, the Stinger may maintain on a contemporary persona in addition to choose up the place the Commodore left off. There’s a contemporary exhaust coming, which may be fitted after purchase. Kia is definitely placing the ending touches on system in addition to is definitely anticipated to personal that out there quickly. So the top results of comparability is definitely the Stinger forward by a nostril. that was a troublesome name, however that’s the higher automobile total in addition to delivers efficiency in spades. in addition to that doesn’t fail to excite while you swap the whole lot off in addition to bury the appropriate foot. Which automobile may we purchase? that’s genuinely line ball. I may fortunately sacrifice the efficiency for the noise of the Commodore, however the Kia delivers the whole lot else you can need by a contemporary, rear-wheel drive, bang-for-your-buck, sports activities. For the needs of nostalgia, that’d be the Commodore, however for total out efficiency in addition to a contemporary bundle, that’s the Stinger. My hat comes off to Kia. Our time with the Stinger was gash quick because of us chewing via a connect of rear tyres — so the photographs we had hoped to snap of the Stinger in addition to Commodore on gravel in addition to out inside the nation couldn’t occur. TopAutoHits.Com has purchased a V6 Stinger Si, so we are going to show you with content material as soon as that reaches our sizzling little arms.