2018 Kia Stinger 330Si v Holden Commodore SS-V Redline comparability
Pricing together with specs
There’s little shock that can Kia has lined the Stinger as much as compete head-to-head with Commodore coming from a specification together with pricing perspective. The Stinger vary kicks off with the entry-level four-cylinder at $45,990 (plus on-road prices), with the V6 simply $3000 extra at $48,990 (plus on-road prices). The mid-specification Si examined right here begins coming from $55,990 (plus on-road prices), which generally is a wholesome step up coming from the obnoxious V6. The vary tops off with the Stinger GT at $59,990 (plus on-road prices). coming from an gear perspective, the Stinger Si could be loaded with whole the superior stuff, together with (see the proper Kia Stinger pricing together with specs right here):
- Leather-based trim with eight-way adjustment for driver together with six-way for passenger
- eight.Zero-inch color touchscreen infotainment with inbuilt satellite tv for pc navigation, DAB+ digital radio, Apple CarPlay together with Android Auto
- 19-inch alloy wheels with house saver spare wheel
- Adaptive cruise management with Three.5-inch mono instrument show
- Entrance together with rear parking sensors with rear-view digital camera with hill begin help
- Two 12V energy shops, two USB charging ports (with quick charging)
- Brembo brakes entrance together with rear
- Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) (low pace), ahead collision warning, lane retain help, driver consideration alert, together with rain-sensing wipers
- 9-speaker sound system with two subwoofers together with Bluetooth enter
- LED daytime working lights with halogen predominant beam
- Keyless entry together with begin
- Twin-zone local weather management with rear air vents
Key dimensions, capacities together with weights:
- Size: 4830mm
- Width: 1870mm
- Top: 1400mm
- Wheelbase: 2905mm
- Weight: 1780kg
- Cargo quantity: 406 litres (expands to 1114 litres)
- Towing (braked): 1500kg, 750kg unbraked
Below the bonnet of the Stinger Si generally is a Three.Three-litre twin-turbocharged V6 engine that can produces 272kW of energy together with 510Nm of torque. the concept’s mated to an eight-speed automated gearbox (with launch management) together with sends drive to the rear wheels. Kia claims a mixed typical gas financial system of 10.2 litres of gas per 100km. There are seven colors accessible, with the Deep Chroma blue an elective pearl color ($695). that can even rounds out the choices checklist, with nothing else accessible to pick. The Commodore vary on the extra hand could be priced coming from $35,490 (plus on-road prices) beginning with the V6-powered Evoke sedan. the concept goes whole the best way by means of to the Commodore SS-V Redline Sportwagon automated coming from $59,190 (plus on-road prices). The SS-V Redline sedan kicks off coming from $54,990 (plus on-road prices) for the six-speed handbook together with $57,190 (plus on-road prices) for the SS-V Redline automated sedan examined right here. Normal options embody (see good 2017 Holden Commodore pricing together with specs right here):
- Leather-based seats with four-way electrical driver’s seat adjustment
- eight.Zero-inch MyLink color infotainment system with touchscreen together with inbuilt satellite tv for pc navigation
- 19-inch alloy wheels with perfect-size alloy spare wheel
- Cruise management
- Blind-scrape monitor with ahead collision alert, lane maintaining warning together with rain-sensing windscreen wipers
- Entrance together with rear parking sensors with rear-view digital camera together with hill begin help
- Two 12V shops with single USB charging together with auxilliary enter
- Brembo brakes entrance together with rear
- 9-speaker sound system with CD participant together with Bluetooth enter
- LED daytime working lights with halogen predominant beam
- Keyless entry together with keyless distant begin
- Twin-zone local weather management with rear air vents
Key dimensions, capacities together with weights:
- Size: 4964mm
- Width: 1898mm
- Top: 1471mm
- Wheelbase: 2915mm
- Weight: 1758kg
- Cargo quantity: 495 litres (seats don’t fold for enlargement)
- Towing (braked): 2100kg, 750kg unbraked
Below the bonnet of the Commodore generally is a 6.2-litre naturally aspirated V8 engine that can produces 304kW of energy together with 570Nm of torque. the concept’s mated to a six-speed automated (six-speed handbook accessible additionally), sends drive to the rear wheels together with makes use of an official mixed 12.9L/100km on the mixed cycle. Commodore could be accessible in 10 colors, with whole nonetheless two a $550 metallic possibility (Redhot strong together with Heron white strong). further choices embody a black roof ($550 with metallic paint, or $1100 with strong paint), rear spoiler ($500) together with 20-inch solid alloy wheels ($1500). coming from a straight out price perspective, the Commodore could be $1200 costlier than the Stinger earlier than including on choices like metallic paint.
among the many most costly utterly new merchandise for Kia in Australia, the Stinger at all times wanted to be a premium providing each visually together with when it comes to options. Open the motive force’s door together with you’re introduced utilizing a properly introduced Indoor with flowing strains proper coming from the door together with across the dashboard. The eight.Zero-inch infotainment display screen sits proudly atop the dashboard together with doesn’t look overly misplaced. The air vents that can sit beneath the infotainment display screen really feel premium together with could be adjusted when it comes to path together with opening/closing. Infotainment controls beneath the display screen are completed in a brushed aluminium end fashion with local weather controls immediately beneath. The gear lever could be only one shift transition between drive, impartial together with reverse, whereas the park place could be activated on the push of a button. The park brake generally is a lever operated system that can actuates electronically. There are two cupholders, plus a storage cubby forward of the gear selector. An honest-sized centre console that can slides additionally affords ample storage for odds together with ends. The steering wheel sits properly in hand, nonetheless we really dislike the polished leather-based end. the concept simply slips coming from the arms throughout fast turns together with doesn’t really feel as premium or cumbersome because the SS-V Redline steering wheel. On the upside, the steering wheel controls are straightforward to make the most of together with the paddle-shifters are straightforward to seize together with actuate whereas driving. By way of infotainment, the system could be very straightforward to make the most of together with fairly fast, nonetheless the concept can catch a little bit of fiddling to undergo menus. the concept’s not fairly as intuitive as the concept could possibly be. One other level of frustration could be the voice recognition system that can solely works once you maintain a telephone paired through cable — most further vehicles available on the market will function voice recognition through an inner system or through the telephone over Bluetooth. Fortunately, the concept’s loaded with options like DAB+ digital radio, inbuilt satellite tv for pc navigation that can works properly, together with Apple CarPlay together with Android Auto for smartphone mirroring. Match together with end across the cabin could be wonderful. The truth is, we discovered the concept laborious to level out a brand new flaws with the construct high quality or supplies used all through the cabin. the concept additionally helps that can the motive force’s seat could be immensely comfy, particularly for lengthy distance drives. The adaptive cruise management works properly together with we didn’t encounter a brand new false calls with the AEB system, which might occur with poorly calibrated methods. Leg- together with headroom on the entrance could be wonderful. the concept feels ethereal with noteworthy visibility out the entrance together with sides. Rearward visibility generally is a little compromised because of the sloping roof line of the hatchback. the concept makes up for the concept utilizing a top quality rear-view digital camera that can even works properly at night time. Rear seat legroom could be superior, nonetheless the Stinger could be massively let down by subsequent to no toe-room. You have to jam your toes below the seat to suit together with taller passengers will discover their head probably doing contact with the roof line. Shoulder width could be superior together with the rear seat bench includes a centre armrest with cupholders, ISOFIX baby seat factors, plus a 60:40 split-folding second row that can expands the cargo quantity providing. Step over to the Commodore together with the concept’s a really acquainted feeling. The Indoor could be very spacious with an eight.Zero-inch MyLink infotainment system taking centre stage. Construct high quality could be additionally superior, nonetheless the concept doesn’t really feel fairly as premium or properly assembled because the Kia. Some contact factors can really feel a bit low cost (such because the centre console surrounds) together with we’re undecided how properly the suede-esque materials on the dashboard will really feel in latest occasions. Faucet the roof together with the concept additionally flexes across the sunroof, which didn’t really feel that can sturdy. In contrast to the Kia, the steering wheel feels wonderful to carry together with the paddle-shifters are completely positioned for a straightforward seize. There’s loads of storage up entrance utilizing a deep centre console together with glovebox. Visibility out the entrance, rear together with sides could be wonderful with the one let down little flee mirrors that can are sometimes troublesome to position vehicles in, plus the large A-pillar, which simply loses cyclists or further highway customers. Entrance leg- together with headroom could be wonderful together with the concept reaches the following degree inside second row with acres of leg-, head- together with toe-room, plus loads of shoulder-room. In contrast to the Stinger, the second row doesn’t fold at whole, nonetheless the concept does maintain a centre armrest with cupholders alongside utilizing a ski port. Plus, you’ll additionally discover ISOFIX anchor factors. The Commodore trumps the Stinger for cargo quantity by nearly 100 litres, which generally is a huge bonus for those who are inclined to roam utilizing a heap of substances. Holden’s MyLink infotainment system could be beginning to really feel dated with clumsy menu transitions alongside utilizing a scarcity of digital radio or Apple CarPlay together with Android Auto. On the upside, the interior voice recognition system could be wonderful together with works exceptionally properly. the concept can even transmit instructions to your Bluetooth smartphone with no linked cable. On the Indoor entrance, the Stinger really surprises with wonderful construct high quality together with spaciousness. nonetheless the concept falls in need of the Commodore when it comes to Indoor room – taller passengers will discover the concept laborious to safe comfy inside second row with out the motive force or entrance passenger shifting their seat upwards.
On the finish of the day, good supplies, top quality match together with end together with digital radio doesn’t rep you a lane ending contest. We strapped our GPS-driven VBox to each vehicles together with lined them up for a lot of efficiency exams to see which was quickest. These embody the usual standing begin exams as much as 200km/h, plus braking coming from 100km/h alongside utilizing a slalom course. Our take a look at facility could be the large Australian Automotive Analysis Centre (AARC) in Anglesea. the concept gives a expedient setting the place we will safely stretch the legs of each vehicles with out working the chance of being photographed by the boys together with women in blue.
|Kia Stinger||Holden Commodore|
|1/four mile (no 1ft roll out)||12.79s at 176.82km/h terminal pace||13.32s at 172.17km/h terminal pace|
|100km/h-Zero (greatest time together with distance)||2.7s at 36.7 metres||2.8s at 37.7 metres|
|Slalom (standing begin)||21.99s||22.15s|
To put these exams into context – the Stinger comes with launch management, which could be the mode we used to attain the perfect time. could be activated by switching stability management off, holding one foot on the brake together with the extra on the throttle. As soon as releasing the brake pedal, the car accelerates away. For added security we switched stability management again on after the car moved to second gear. The Stinger’s time bettered Kia’s claimed four.9 seconds together with we discovered that can of the six makes an attempt, the quickest was on the third escape. Past 100km/h the concept strikes surprisingly rapidly in direction of 200km/h. The braking outcomes have been additionally stunning given the Stinger could be round 20kg heavier than the Commodore. The consequence that can stunned us probably the most, although, was the slalom. Our slalom begins utilizing a standing begin right into a all 5 cone slalom, by means of a big radius flip into a good path change, by means of the all 5 cones once more together with then by means of a good radius flip with the timer began out together with stopped when the wheels nasty the beginning line. Stinger was quickest by a whisker when pushed in Sport mode with stability management switched off together with utilizing launch management off the road. the concept sat surprisingly flat by means of the slalom together with the entrance finish bit properly by means of the massive radius flip. The steering affords loads of really feel together with sufficient suggestions to let you realize what’s happening below the entrance wheels. The one factor we seen working in opposition to the concept was how mild the concept felt on the rear. When the concept got here on increase the concept will snap into wheelspin fairly rapidly, so the concept wanted fast arms together with extra exact throttle management to retain the concept regular throughout path enhancements. On arrive to the tight radius flip on the finish the chassis dealt properly utilizing a sudden change coming from acceleration to braking. The nostril dived properly together with the brakes bit with confidence to tuck the entrance in for an efficient u-turn. The Commodore, on the extra hand, took a bit of labor to safe the concept right down to its quickest time. We ended up selecting 5.6 seconds to 100km/h earlier than we did our Zero-200km/h runs the place the concept scored a 5.Three second Zero-100km/h break up. Of the six makes an attempt we made, the quickest time was connect on the the final escape. Commodore was a little bit tougher to launch cleanly than the Stinger. The quickest solution to launch the concept was in Aggressive Mode, which could be the second stage of the steadiness management program with the gearbox in Sport. the concept’s then a case of loading up revs in opposition to the brake, facet stepping the brake together with dropping the hammer. We discovered the quickest launch occurred utilizing a little bit wheel spin off the road. On two events, with the shift coming from second to 3rd, there was an unclean shift by the gearbox, which resulted in a slower time. Our take a look at automobile had a little bit over 10,000km on the clock, so the concept was feeling its age, too. We’ve additionally seen a greatest time of four.9 seconds in a handbook Commodore beforehand, so 5.Three seconds was undoubtedly off the lunge. Regardless, the Stinger by no means carried out worse than four.9 seconds, so it doesn’t matter what our greatest time was inside previous, the concept’s clearly not a repeatable feat with the Commodore. On to 200km/h, the Commodore took a little bit longer to wind up, nonetheless felt simply as assured on the brakes. The truth is, the concept felt like the concept stopped faster than the Stinger coming from 100km/h, nonetheless the numbers show that can the Stinger pulled up faster together with in a shorter distance. On the slalom course, the Commodore really was smile inducing. Its quickest time was additionally had with stability management utterly switched off together with manually shifting by means of gears. the concept felt far heavier by means of the cones than the Stinger – partly because of the electrically-assisted steering tune. nonetheless, the concept felt a little bit extra enjoyable. the concept was planted together with you might confidently retain the foot inside thought when altering path, quick-witted that can the concept was solely a fast flick of reverse lock to retain the concept in verify. By way of the massive radius flip the concept washed a little bit broad, so the quickest solution to safe by means of that can advanced was to uninteresting the concept up extra together with let the concept step a bit sideways on exit. Approaching the tight radius flip on the finish the concept wanted extra effort on the brakes to uninteresting the concept up together with tuck the concept in for the tight flip. Both method, the concept nonetheless carried out extremely properly given the concept’s naturally aspirated together with on a platform that can is likely to be thought-about historic inside automotive phrases. The large distinction between these two with stability management off was that can the Kia doesn’t totally change the system off. In its totally off mode, the concept will nonetheless intervene with sharp steering enter alongside utilizing a 45 diploma slip angle. So which of those two was extra enjoyable by means of the slalom? the concept was shut, nonetheless the concept was the Commodore by a whisker. With that can mentioned, we have been fairly impressed with the Stinger. the concept bit laborious in tight turns together with returned huge smiles after a number of runs, which could be the vital half.
On the highway
We’ve pushed together with reviewed Commodore extensively, so we all know how properly the concept performs in Australian circumstances. portion of the comparability will give attention to how the Stinger compares to the Commodore. Throughout latest abroad product launches in South Korea, we’ve skilled the home market tune together with commented on how mushy the concept could be. the concept works properly for the South Korean market, nonetheless the concept falls aside in Australia once you start throwing vehicles into winding roads or throughout steady undulations. Our take a look at route stretched coming from internal Melbourne, by means of nation roads, alongside gravel together with to the AARC in Anglesea, the place we did our efficiency testing. The drive route aimed to embody the principle purpose individuals purchased the Commodore – for its versatility on the freeway together with all through nation Australia. Regardless of utilizing non-adaptive dampers (that are customary on the Stinger GT), the Stinger rode easily on the freeway stretch. The journey could be easy sufficient to deal with little highway enhancements, which might typically unsettle firmer using autos. Potholes together with highway joins have been softly damped, whereas the steering supplied ample suggestions with slight inputs at freeway speeds. the concept was a little bit imprecise at occasions about centre at freeway speeds, which could be one thing we’ve typically criticised the Commodore for as properly. Street noise at freeway speeds was wonderful, with only a little bit of wind noise coming from the flee mirrors. As luck may maintain the concept, our decibel meter failed throughout testing. As quickly as we safe one other Stinger by means of, we are going to replace part with exact noise measurements at freeway pace. As a comparability, the Commodore was a little bit noisier at freeway speeds together with the journey a bit firmer additionally. The FE3 suspension tune tends to journey a bit firmer to help retain the car flat by means of faster path enhancements. Stinger really stepped up the sport on the nation highway stretch. Our take a look at highway could be notoriously poor together with not solely options potholes together with highway joins, nonetheless many steady undulations that can trigger the suspension to nearly totally prolong at 100km/h. Lesser vehicles will nonetheless be at good extension when the rise of the following undulation hits, which causes the concept to atomize down over the rise. The Stinger may prolong together with select in time for the following hit, maintaining the physique settled all through the sum rollercoaster journey. Kia has spent a noteworthy deal of time together with cash tuning the Stinger for the Australian market, together with the concept really reveals. The place we’d usually err on the facet of a sports activities automobile with adaptive dampers to cowl the proper gamut of consolation together with sportiness, the Stinger properly bridges the hole between each, particularly on low high quality nation roads. In fact, the Commodore could be at house on these roads together with whereas the concept feels a bit firmer, the physique management over low high quality nation roads could be wonderful. When throwing the Stinger into sooner corners, the concept stayed flat together with tracked properly. Suggestions by means of the wheel was wonderful together with throttle response was addictive. Regardless of utilizing an eight-speed automated gearbox, the Stinger not often hunts for gears together with makes good make the most of of its in-gear torque to propel the car ahead. Gears could be manually chosen at a brand new time utilizing the paddle-shifters, nonetheless the car received’t maintain gears. the concept shifts up as you arrive the limiter in every gear. For those who decide to bury the fitting foot, the Stinger begins hauling with unbelievable lunge. Regardless of the shortage of sound, the torque supply could be relentless. 510Nm could not sound like a lot, nonetheless the concept actually looks like rather more. A mode management knob permits the motive force to change between a number of drive modes together with Financial system, mental, Consolation, Sport together with Customized. The modes are fairly self explanatory, with Customized permitting the motive force to pick steering really feel together with engine response. flexibility makes mundane driving rather less cumbersome than the Commodore. Whereas the Commodore can change between stability management modes, the Commodore’s steering generally is a little heavy at low speeds compared to the Stinger in its Consolation mode. Utilizing a six-speed automated gearbox, Commodore depends extra on gearing than torque to develop spurts of acceleration. Begin pushing the throttle together with the concept will roam again by means of the gears till the concept finally kicks down into an almighty roar. Whenever you slam the throttle down inside Kia, the concept’s laborious to catch a brand new noise coming from the engine or exhaust. The Commodore on the extra hand erupts right into a fury of V8 goodness. the concept makes use of a mixture of plumbed noise induction alongside utilizing a bi-modal exhaust to create the LS3 engine really sing – the concept’s one of many car’s strongest factors. The Stinger’s braking comes inside type of Brembos on whole 4 corners. The entrance brakes measure 350mm with ventilated rotors together with four-piston calipers, whereas the rear rotors measure 340mm with two-piston calipers. Brake pedal really feel could be superior, nonetheless a little bit softer than the Commodore’s. nonetheless, step laborious on the anchors together with the Stinger pulls up properly. As a comparability, the SS-V brakes measure 355mm on the entrance with four-piston calipers together with two-piston on the rear. The pedal inside Commodore generally is a little extra responsive together with affords barely extra really feel. We suspected that can gravel is likely to be the Stinger’s undoing together with we have been proper. Whereas the concept sits properly on gravel – at the same time as speeds improve – the concept doesn’t really feel anyplace attain as settled because the Commodore. Steering inputs may trigger sudden enhancements of path on the rear, whereas throttle inputs mid-corner wouldn’t be as predictable or progressive as inside Commodore. The Stinger’s stability management additionally bit fairly aggressively on gravel, which could upset the path of the car below throttle together with with steering inputs. The Commodore’s stability management tune permits additional motion together with works with the motive force to permit minor path enhancements earlier than harsher intervention. The top consequence generally is a smoother drive on gravel surfaces. For those who’re not planning on spending a lot time on gravel, the concept received’t be a problem, nonetheless the concept’s one thing value contemplating inside again of your thoughts. As anticipated, the Commodore used a premium quantity of gas compared to the Stinger. Following the freeway together with nation drive, alongside utilizing a stint on the AARC, the Stinger ended up at an typical gas consumption of 13.9 litres of gas per 100km, whereas the Commodore completed up at 15.7L/100km. the concept’s value maintaining in thoughts that can regardless of many of the drive being on freeway together with nation roads, the driving on the AARC was predominantly a lot tougher, which skewed gas make the most of. We have been fairly stunned with how properly the Stinger carried out throughout quite a lot of highway circumstances. Whereas the concept’s not as competent because the Commodore over gravel, the concept had no points out inside nation together with proved that can native engineering properly together with really helps cowl the large nasty part of roads we cowl in Australia.
Kia fires out of the beginning blocks utilizing a seven-year, limitless kilometre guarantee that can’s laborious to match. Kia additionally affords capped price servicing at service intervals of 12 months or 10,000km. Kia affords capped price servicing for a interval of seven years, coming in at a complete of $1975 for all 5 years or 50,000km, pushing out to $3375 for seven years or 70,000km. Holden on the extra hand affords Commodore utilizing a three-year, 100,000km guarantee together with capped price servicing at 9 month, 15,000km intervals. Servicing over a interval of all 5 years or 105,000km prices $1993. the concept’s an uneven equation given you want to service the Commodore each 9 months, that means seven companies over all 5 years, with protection for 105,000km. that can compares to solely all 5 companies for the Kia, nonetheless solely protection for 50,000km. Holden includes a particular supply for the rest of 2017 that can provides prospects a seven-year, 175,000km guarantee, doing the Commodore level-pegging on its guarantee providing with the Stinger. Changing tyres might be a factor you want to enact for those who plot on driving the best way these vehicles have been meant to be pushed. The Stinger runs on Continental ContiSport Contact 5 tyres, which price $398 for every entrance tyre (225/35R19) together with $466 for every rear (255/35R19). The Commodore will connect you again $401 for every entrance tyre (Bridgestone RE050A 245/40R19) together with $510 for every rear (Bridgestone RE050A 275/35R19).
What enact you suppose?
We have been eager to seek out out what everyone thought concerning the Stinger together with Commodore in individual. We held an impromptu pop-up automobile showroom on the TopAutoHits.Com workplace in Melbourne together with have been stunned together with your suggestions. maintain a pay attention beneath to seek out out whether or not you guys, our readers, love or detest what Kia has accomplished with the Stinger.
We went into take a look at anticipating a massacre with an Aussie contender popping out on prime. nonetheless, the concept didn’t finish fairly as anticipated. Apart coming from a connect of destroyed tyres on the Kia, the South Korean managed to properly together with really maintain its personal when pitted head-to-head in opposition to the Commodore. the concept blitzed the Commodore on the efficiency entrance, received over shoppers together with has the appears to be like to show heads. Sadly the concept falls properly quick when it comes to noise together with the pure soul together with emotion the Commodore oozes every together with each time you stab the throttle. Time has moved on, although. together with with that can, we maintain a change of guard. Whereas the Commodore nonetheless sounds unbelievable together with maintains a picture of considered one of Australia’s greatest sports activities sedans, the concept can’t retain up with the high-tech Stinger. utilizing a very new exhaust, the Stinger may catch on a very new persona together with choose up the place the Commodore left off. There’s a very new exhaust coming, which could be fitted after purchase. Kia could be placing the ending touches on system together with could be anticipated to carry the concept accessible quickly. So the tip results of comparability could be the Stinger forward by a nostril. the concept was a troublesome name, nonetheless the concept’s the higher automobile general together with delivers efficiency in spades. together with the concept doesn’t fail to excite once you change the whole lot off together with bury the fitting foot. Which automobile may we purchase? the concept’s genuinely line ball. I would fortunately sacrifice the efficiency for the noise of the Commodore, nonetheless the Kia delivers the whole lot else you might need coming from a contemporary, rear-wheel drive, bang-for-your-buck, sports activities sedan. For the needs of nostalgia, the concept’d be the Commodore, nonetheless for whole out efficiency alongside utilizing a contemporary bundle, the concept’s the Stinger. My hat comes off to Kia.